Herbert Schoen

German footballer

Herbert Schoen

Schoen in 1956

Personal information
Date of birth|  (1929-05-18)18 May 1929
Place of birth|  Luckenwalde, Free State of Prussia, Germany
Date of death|  8 April 2014(2014-04-08) (aged 84)
Position(s)|  Defender
Youth career
1948–1950|  SV DVP Potsdam
Senior career*
Years|  Team|  Apps|  (Gls)
1950–1954|  SG Dynamo Dresden|  133|  (2)
1954–1959|  SC Dynamo Berlin|  |
1959–1962|  SG Dynamo Hohenschönhausen|  |
International career
1952–1957|  East Germany|  12|  (0)
Managerial career
1974-1981|  BFC Dynamo II[nb 1]
*Club domestic league appearances and goals

Herbert Schoen (18 May 1929 – 8 April 2014) was a German international footballer.

## Playing career[edit]

The defender played internationally with the East Germany national team in the 1950s.[2]

On club level he appeared in 179 Oberliga matches.[3]

## Coaching career[edit]

Herbert Schoen continued as youth coach at SC Dynamo Berlin and then BFC Dynamo after retiring as a player He trained players such as Werner Voigt and Frank Terletzki. Schoen was a tough-as-nails defender during his playing career. Voigt remembers how Schoen forced the players to throw snowballs at each other, but the players were not allowed to fend them off with their hands, they were only allowed to dodge, to increase the ability to react.[4] Schoen was also the first coach of Frank Terletzki. Teletzki has described Schoen as a "tough dog". He claims that learned virtues such as discipline and hardness towards oneself from Schoen. Terletzki said: "It didn't matter to us whether it was pouring rain or snowing, we always trained."[5]

Schoen coached the youth team of BFC Dynamo in the 1966-67 season. The youth team under Schoen became East German Youth Champion (de) in the 1966-67 season, after defeating SG Dynamo Eisleben 2-0 in the replay of the final on 15 July 1967. The youth team included futured DDR-Oberliga players such as Frank Terletzki, Bernd Brillat, Wolfgang Filohn, Rainer Rohde and Gerald Schwierske.[6] The youth team of BFC Dynamo under Schoen also won the East German Youth Cup (Youth FDGB-Pokal) (German: FDGB-Pokal der Jugend) in the 1967-68 season.[7] Schoen then coached a junior team of BFC Dynamo in the Junior Oberliga (German: Juniorenoberliga) (de) from the 1968-69 season.[8][9] He led the team in the Junior Oberliga until the end of the first half of the 1971-72 season.[10] Hermann Bley then took over as coach in the Junior Oberliga.[11][12][13] Jürgen Bogs then became the new coach for the junior team for the 1972-73 season.[14] Shoen then again became the coach of the BFC Dynamo youth team. He led the youth team of BFC Dynamo in the semi-final and the final of the Youth FDGB-Pokal at the end of the 1971-72 season.[15] The youth team of BFC Dynamo under Schoen eventually won the 1971-72 Youth FDGB-Pokal. This youth team included players such as Lutz Eigendorf, Hans-Jürgen Riediger and Roland Jüngling.[16]

Schoen became the new coach of the reserve team of BFC Dynamo in 1974. BFC Dynamo II played in the second tier DDR-Liga at the time.[17] The team finished the 1974-75 DDR-Liga B as runner-up. The reserve teams of the 14 DDR-Oberliga clubs were no longer allowed to participate in the DDR-Liga after the 1975-76 season. The Next Generation Oberliga (German: Nachwuchsoberliga) (de) was introduced instead. The reserve teams of the 14 DDR-Oberliga clubs would now have to continue in the Next Generation Oberliga or the third tier Bezirksliga. Youth teams of the 14 DDR-Oberliga clubs were all were eligible to start in the 1976-77 Next Generation Oberliga. BFC Dynamo II joined the Next Generation Oberliga as youth team. Schoen continued as coach of BFC Dynamo II in the Next Generation Oberliga until 1981.[18][19][20]

## Later life[edit]

Schoen remained involved in BFC Dynamo and an active member of the club into old age. Schoen died in 2014 at the age of 84.[21]

## Explanatory notes[edit]

1. ^ As the coach of the team of BFC Dynamo in the Next Generation Oberliga (German: Nachwuchsoberliga) (de) between 1976 and 1981.[1]

## References[edit]

1. ^ Schlegel, Klaus (11 January 1977). "Das Bewährte wird bewahrt". Neues Deutschland (in German). Berlin: Socialist Unity Party of Germany. Retrieved 3 August 2022.
2. ^ Arnhold, Matthias (14 January 2016). "Herbert Schoen - International Appearances". Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation. Retrieved 28 January 2016.
3. ^ Arnhold, Matthias (14 January 2016). "Herbert Schoen - Matches and Goals in Oberliga". Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation. Retrieved 28 January 2016.
4. ^ Schulz, Jürgen (4 October 2004). "Der Schleifer von Union". Die Tageszeitung (in German). Berlin: taz Verlags u. Vertriebs GmbH. Retrieved 4 August 2022.
5. ^ Nemschok, Edgar (29 December 2012). "Immer noch große Lust auf Fußball". Märkische Oderzeitung (in German). Frankfurt an der Oder: Märkisches Medienhaus GmbH & Co. KG. Archived from the original on 26 September 2021. Retrieved 26 September 2021.
6. ^ Binkowski, Manfred (18 July 1967). "Größere spielerische Reife entschied" (PDF). Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1967, no. 29\. Berlin: DFV der DDR. p. 4\. ISSN 0323-8407. Retrieved 19 March 2023.
7. ^ Binkowski, Mandfred (11 June 1967). "Herbert Schoens Trümpfe staschen" (PDF). Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1968, no. 4\. Berlin: DFV der DDR. p. 5\. ISSN 0323-8407. Retrieved 19 March 2023.
8. ^ "Visitenkarte" (PDF). Neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (De) (in German). Vol. 1968, no. 32\. Berlin: DFV der DDR. 6 August 1968. p. 6\. ISSN 0323-8407. Retrieved 4 February 2023.
9. ^ "JUNIOREN-OBERLIGA: Reifeprozeß wird beschleunigt" (PDF). Deutsches Sportecho/Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1969, no. Sonderausgabe. Berlin. August 1969. p. 26\. ISSN 0323-6420. Retrieved 4 February 2023.
10. ^ "JUGEND: Wismut Aue - BFC Dynamo" (PDF). Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1971, no. 49\. Berlin: DFV der DDR. 7 December 1971. p. 13\. ISSN 0323-8407. Retrieved 4 February 2023.
11. ^ "JUGEND: BFC Dynamo - Stahl Riesa" (PDF). Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1971, no. 50\. Berlin: DFV der DDR. 14 December 1971. p. 13\. ISSN 0323-8407. Retrieved 4 February 2023.
12. ^ "JUGEND: FC Vorwärts Frankfurt (O.) - BFC Dynamo" (PDF). Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1972, no. 10\. Berlin: DFV der DDR. 7 March 1972. p. 13\. ISSN 0323-8407. Retrieved 4 February 2023.
13. ^ "JUGEND: BFC Dynamo - FC Hansa Rostock" (PDF). Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1972, no. 21\. Berlin: DFV der DDR. 24 May 1972. p. 13\. ISSN 0323-8407. Retrieved 5 February 2023.
14. ^ "JUNIOREN-OBERLIGA: BFC Dynamo - 1. FC Union Berlin" (PDF). Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1972, no. 40\. Berlin: DFV der DDR. 3 October 1972. p. 7\. ISSN 0323-8407. Retrieved 5 February 2023.
15. ^ "BFC Dynamo wieder im Finale" (PDF). Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1972, no. 18\. Berlin: DFV der DDR. 3 May 1972. p. 13\. ISSN 0323-8407. Retrieved 4 February 2023.
16. ^ "JUGEND" (PDF). Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1972, no. 21\. Berlin: DFV der DDR. 24 May 1972. p. 13\. ISSN 0323-8407. Retrieved 4 February 2023.
17. ^ "Die Liga vor der Saison 1974/75: Staffel B - BFC Dynamo Berlin II" (PDF). Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1974, no. 34\. Berlin: DFV der DDR. 20 August 1974. p. 11\. ISSN 0323-8407. Retrieved 4 February 2023.
18. ^ "Die Kollektive der Nachwuchs-Oberliga" (PDF). Deutsches Sportecho/Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1976, no. Sonderausgabe. Berlin. August 1976. pp. 16–17. ISSN 0323-6420. Retrieved 4 February 2023.
19. ^ "Visitenkarten der 14 Mannschaften unserer Nachwuchs-Oberliga" (PDF). Deutsches Sportecho/Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1980, no. Sonderausgabe. Berlin. August 1980. p. 28\. ISSN 0323-6420. Retrieved 4 February 2023.
20. ^ "Visitenkarten der 14 Mannschaften unserer Nachwuchs-Oberliga" (PDF). Deutsches Sportecho/Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) (in German). Vol. 1981, no. Sonderausgabe. Berlin. August 1981. p. 19\. ISSN 0323-6420.
21. ^ "Der BFC Dynamo trauert um Herbert Schoen" (in German). Berliner FC Dynamo. Archived from the original on 16 April 2014. Retrieved 15 April 2014.

## External links[edit]

* Herbert Schoen at fussballdaten.de (in German)
* Herbert Schoen at WorldFootball.net
* Herbert Schoen at National-Football-Teams.com

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