Silver Box

For the play by John Galsworthy, see The Silver Box.

2004 box set by Simple Minds

Silver Box

Box set by

Simple Minds

Released| 18 October 2004
Recorded| 1979–1995, 1999
Genre| Rock
Length| 5:18:29
Label| Virgin
Simple Minds chronology
| Cry
(2002)  | Silver Box
(2004)  | Black & White 050505
(2005)

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Simple Minds alternate chronology
| Real Live 91
(1998)  | Our Secrets Are the Same
(2000/2004)  | Neon Lights
(2001)

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Simple Minds studio albums chronology
| Néapolis
(1998)  | Our Secrets Are the Same
(2000/2004)  | Cry
(2002)

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Our Secrets Are the Same

Unused cover artwork

Professional ratingsReview scores

Source| Rating
The Guardian| [1]
Martin C. Strong| (6/10)[2]
NME| (mixed)[3]
Uncut| [4]

Silver Box is a 5-CD box set by Scottish rock band Simple Minds, released in October 2004. It includes Our Secrets Are the Same (as disc 5), the band's long-delayed (1999/2000) twelfth studio album of original material.[5]

## Overview

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Silver Box is mostly made up of previously unreleased demos, BBC sessions and various live recordings from 1979 to 1995.[1] It also includes, as a final bonus disc, their genuine twelfth studio album (of original material), Our Secrets Are the Same. Originally recorded between April and June 1999 and originally planned to be released on its own in early 2000, Our Secrets Are the Same was delayed many times and even cancelled until its final inclusion in the box set.[5]

## Critical reception

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The few professional reviews the compilation received commented on the previously elusive album Our Secrets Are The Same positively. Adam Sweeting, writing for The Guardian newspaper, opined, "The album, dating from 1999, was scuppered by legal wranglings, but it's some of the best music the band have made in 20 years. Tracks such as "Death by Chocolate" or "Happy Is the Man" recall something of their old pioneering spirit, and show a fascination with the process of recording rather than with prancing about in front of a sea of cigarette lighters."[1] He dismissed most of the third and fourth discs as evidence of the band's progression into "overblown" stadium rock, but admitted: "If you chucked out most of discs three and four from this beefy five-disc box, you'd be left with some fascinating insights and lost nuggets from the past and near-present of Simple Minds.[1] Rob Fitzpatrick writing for the NME agreed, saying, "By CD3, "Waterfront" – a neat throb of a single – is bloated into ten-plus minutes of pointless noodling and "Ghost Dancing" is so clearly similar in sound to U2's "The Unforgettable Fire" it's embarrassing. By CD4 it's time for "Belfast Child". God no! Miraculously, though, CD5 the band's 1999 'lost' album has some really good music on it in fact it's a lost gem that some fans have never heard or even know about.[3]

Uncut meanwhile admitted that the new album would be the main source of interest, but thought that the music still owed much to U2, writing, "It finds Kerr and Burchill still a bit in the slipstream of '90s U2 – tastefully epic, techno-fringed and extravagantly exasperated ("Death By Chocolate" and "Neon Cowboys") with the wickedness of a world gone wrong."[4] Martin C. Strong meanwhile, in The Essential Rock Discography, complimented the band's new music: "The album's savvy pop smarts harked back to their early 80s purple period, only underlining the shortcomings of Néapolis, while the sassy momentum of "Jeweller to the Stars" could've easily regenerated Kerr and Co's contemporary credibility."[2]

## Track listing

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Adapted from the box set liner notes.[6]

Silver Box (November/2004. Virgin Records)

### Disc 1

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1.| "Life in a Day" (BBC in Concert, live at Paris Theatre, London, 8 August 1979)| Jim Kerr, Charlie Burchill| 4:09
2.| "Chelsea Girl" (BBC in Concert, live at Paris Theatre, London, 8 August 1979)| Kerr, Burchill| 5:08
3.| "Here Comes the Fool" (BBC in Concert, live at Paris Theatre, London, 8 August 1979)| Kerr, Burchill, Mick MacNeil, Derek Forbes, Brian McGee| 4:45
4.| "Changeling" (John Peel Session, Maida Vale Studios, London, 19 December 1979)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 4:00
5.| "Premonition" (John Peel Session, Maida Vale Studios, London, 19 December 1979)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 5:34
6.| "Citizen (Dance of Youth)" (John Peel Session, Maida Vale Studios, London, 19 December 1979)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 2:57
7.| "Room" (John Peel Session, Maida Vale Studios, London, 19 December 1979)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 4:22
8.| "I Travel" (Demo, early/mid 1980)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 3:49
9.| "Celebrate" (Demo, early/mid 1980)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 4:24
10.| "Thirty Frames a Second" (Demo, early/mid 1980)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 5:24
11.| "Twist/Run/Repulsion" (Demo, early/mid 1980)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 4:08
12.| "Capital City" (Demo, early/mid 1980)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 5:33
13.| "New Warm Skin" (Demo, early/mid 1980)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 4:19
14.| "Constantinople Line" (Demo, early/mid 1980)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 4:40
15.| "Careful in Career" (Demo, January 1981)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 6:33

### Disc 2

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1.| "The American" (Demo, January 1981)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 3:59
2.| "Life in Oils" (Demo, January 1981)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 4:13
3.| "Sweat in Bullet" (Demo, January 1981)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 4:28
4.| "Love Song" (Demo, January 1981)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 4:59
5.| "Promised You a Miracle" (David Jensen Session, Maida Vale Studios, London, 11 February 1982)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes| 4:25
6.| "In Trance as Mission" (David Jensen Session, Maida Vale Studios, London, 11 February 1982)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, McGee| 4:30
7.| "Someone Somewhere in Summertime" (David Jensen Session, Maida Vale Studios, London, 26 August 1982)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes| 5:10
8.| "Glittering Prize" (David Jensen Session, Maida Vale Studios, London, 26 August 1982)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes| 4:21
9.| "Hunter & the Hunted" (David Jensen Session, Maida Vale Studios, London, 26 August 1982)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes| 5:53
10.| "The Kick Inside of Me" (David Jensen Session, Maida Vale Studios, London, 11 September 1983)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, Mel Gaynor| 5:36
11.| "New Gold Dream" (Includes excerpts from "Take Me to the River" and "Light My Fire") (Live at Barrowlands Ballroom, Glasgow, 5 January 1985)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes / Al Green, Mabon Hodges / Jim Morrison, Robby Krieger, John Densmore, Ray Manzarek| 12:33
12.| "Don't You (Forget about Me)" (Live Aid rehearsal, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 10 July 1985)| Keith Forsey, Steve Schiff| 7:14

### Disc 3

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1.| "Waterfront" (Live at The Ahoy, Rotterdam, 3 December 1985)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, Gaynor| 10:34
2.| "Ghost Dancing" (Live at The Ahoy, Rotterdam, 3 December 1985)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil| 7:32
3.| "Book of Brilliant Things" (Live at The Ahoy, Rotterdam, 3 December 1985)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, Gaynor| 6:44
4.| "Once Upon a Time" (Live at The Ahoy, Rotterdam, 3 December 1985)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil| 7:13
5.| "All the Things She Said" (Live at The Ahoy, Rotterdam, 3 December 1985)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil| 5:28
6.| "Alive and Kicking" (Live at The Ahoy, Rotterdam, 3 December 1985)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil| 7:24
7.| "Sanctify Yourself" (Live at The Ahoy, Rotterdam, 3 December 1985)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil| 5:30
8.| "Mandela Day" (Live at Wembley Stadium, London, 11 June 1988)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil| 6:06
9.| "Real Life" (Live at Barrowlands Ballroom, Glasgow, 13 August 1991)| Kerr, Burchill| 6:44
10.| "See the Lights" (Live at Barrowlands Ballroom, Glasgow, 13 August 1991)| Kerr, Burchill| 5:29

### Disc 4

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1.| "Travelling Man" (Live at Barrowlands Ballroom, Glasgow, 13 August 1991)| Kerr, Burchill, Stephen Lipson| 5:18
2.| "East at Easter" (Live at Barrowlands Ballroom, Glasgow, 13 August 1991)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, Gaynor| 4:15
3.| "Banging on the Door" (Live at Barrowlands Ballroom, Glasgow, 13 August 1991)| Kerr, Burchill| 5:45
4.| "Stand by Love" (Live at Barrowlands Ballroom, Glasgow, 13 August 1991)| Kerr, Burchill| 4:28
5.| "Oh Jungleland" (Live at Barrowlands Ballroom, Glasgow, 13 August 1991)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil| 6:44
6.| "King Is White & in the Crowd" (Live at Barrowlands Ballroom, Glasgow, 13 August 1991)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes| 4:17
7.| "Big Sleep" (Live at Barrowlands Ballroom, Glasgow, 13 August 1991)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes| 5:18
8.| "Let There Be Love" (Live at Barrowlands Ballroom, Glasgow, 13 August 1991)| Kerr, Burchill| 5:38
9.| "Ghostrider" (Live at Barrowlands Ballroom, Glasgow, 13 August 1991)| Kerr, Burchill| 4:05
10.| "Belfast Child" (Live at Barrowlands Ballroom, Glasgow, 13 August 1991)| Traditional, Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil| 9:02
11.| "She's a River" (Live at the Royal Concert Hall, Glasgow, 10 September 1995)| Kerr, Burchill| 6:11
12.| "Up on the Catwalk" (Live at the Royal Concert Hall, Glasgow, 10 September 1995)| Kerr, Burchill, MacNeil, Forbes, Gaynor| 4:46
13.| "Hypnotised" (Live at the Royal Concert Hall, Glasgow, 10 September 1995)| Kerr, Burchill| 7:00

### Disc 5: Our Secrets Are the Same

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(twelfth studio album of original material)No.| Title| Writer(s)| Length

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1.| "Swimming Towards the Sun"| Kevin Hunter, Kathleen Stevens| 4:33
2.| "Jeweller to the Stars"| Kerr, Burchill, Hunter| 3:28
3.| "Space"| Kerr, Burchill, Hunter| 4:16
4.| "Death by Chocolate"| Kerr, Burchill, Hunter| 3:36
5.| "Waiting at the End of the World"| Kerr, Burchill, Hunter| 3:26
6.| "Neon Cowboys"| Kerr, Burchill, Hunter| 3:52
7.| "She Knows"| Kerr, Burchill, Hunter| 4:07
8.| "Hello"| Kerr, Burchill, Hunter| 3:23
9.| "Happy Is the Man"| Mark Kerr| 4:23
10.| "Sleeping"| Kerr, Burchill, Hunter| 4:32

## Personnel

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Credits adapted from the box set liner notes,[6] except where noted.

Musicians

* Jim Kerr – vocals
* Charlie Burchill – guitar
* Mick MacNeil – keyboards (disc 1; disc 2; disc 3: 1–8)[7]
* Derek Forbes – bass (disc 1; disc 2: 1–11)[8]
* Brian McGee – drums (disc 1; disc 2: 1–4)[9]
* Kenny Hyslop – drums (disc 2: 5, 6)[10]
* Mike Ogletree – drums (disc 2: 7–9)[11]
* Mel Gaynor – drums (disc 2: 10–12; disc 3: disc 4: 1–10)[12]
* John Giblin – bass (disc 2: 12; disc 3: 1–8)[13]
* Robin Clark – vocals (disc 3: 1–7)[14]
* Sue Hadjopoulos – percussion (disc 3: 1–7)[14]
* Malcolm Foster – bass (disc 3: 9,10; disc 4)[15]
* Mark Taylor – keyboards (disc 3: 9,10; disc 4)[16]
* Mark Schulman – drums (disc 4: 11–13)[17]
* Bono – vocals (disc 2: 11)

Technical

* Trevor Dann – producer (disc 1: 4–7)
* John Owen Williams – producer (disc 2: 5,6)
* John Sparrow – producer (disc 2: 7–10)
* Nick Gomm – engineer (disc 1: 4–7)
* Mike Robinson – engineer (disc 2: 5–10)
* Simon Heyworth – mastering (disc 1–5)

Our Secrets Are the Same

* Jim Kerr – vocals
* Charlie Burchill – guitar, keyboards, producer, mixing
* Kevin Hunter – guitar, backing vocals, producer
* Eddie Duffy – bass, additional percussion
* Mark Kerr – drums, backing vocals
* Chris Fudurich – additional keyboards, engineer, mixing
* Recorded April–June 1999 at CaVa Studios in Glasgow and Jim Kerr's house.[18]

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## References

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1. ^ a b c d Sweeting, Adam (1 October 2004). "Pop CD reissue of Simple Minds - Silver Box: Review". The Guardian. Retrieved 31 January 2013.
2. ^ a b "(title unknown)". The Essential Rock Discography - Volume 1. 2006. p. 970.
3. ^ a b Fitzpatrick, Rob (28 August 2004). "Silver Box \- Box-Set Of The Week". NME. IPC Media. Retrieved 31 January 2013.
4. ^ a b "Simple Minds - Silver Box \- Articles & Reviews". Uncut. IPC Media. October 2004. Retrieved 31 January 2013.
5. ^ a b "Silver Box – 2004". Simple Minds official website. 18 October 2004. Retrieved 1 May 2021.
6. ^ a b "Simple Minds - Silver Box". Discogs. Retrieved 1 May 2021.
7. ^ "People: Mick MacNeil". Dream Giver Redux. Retrieved 1 May 2021.
8. ^ "People: Derek Forbes". Dream Giver Redux. Retrieved 1 May 2021.
9. ^ "People: Brian McGee". Dream Giver Redux. Retrieved 1 May 2021.
10. ^ "People: Kenny Hyslop". Dream Giver Redux. Retrieved 1 May 2021.
11. ^ "People: Mike Ogletree". Dream Giver Redux. Retrieved 1 May 2021.
12. ^ "People: Mel Gaynor". Dream Giver Redux. Retrieved 1 May 2021.
13. ^ "People: John Giblin". Dream Giver Redux. Retrieved 1 May 2021.
14. ^ a b "Family Tree: Simple Minds #13". Dream Giver Redux. Retrieved 1 May 2021.
15. ^ "People: Malcolm Foster". Dream Giver Redux. Retrieved 1 May 2021.
16. ^ "People: Mark Taylor". Dream Giver Redux. Retrieved 1 May 2021.
17. ^ "People: Mark Schulman". Dream Giver Redux. Retrieved 1 May 2021.
18. ^ "Our Secrets Are the Same - 1999". Simple Minds official website. 30 June 1999. Retrieved 1 May 2021.

* v
* t
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Simple Minds

* Jim Kerr
* Charlie Burchill
* Ged Grimes
* Sarah Brown
* Gordy Goudie
* Cherisse Osei

* Brian McGee
* Mick MacNeil
* Derek Forbes
* Kenny Hyslop
* Mike Ogletree
* John Giblin
* Mel Gaynor
* Catherine AD

Albums|

* Life in a Day
* Real to Real Cacophony
* Empires and Dance
* Sons and Fascination/Sister Feelings Call
* New Gold Dream (81–82–83–84)
* Sparkle in the Rain
* Once Upon a Time
* Street Fighting Years
* Real Life
* Good News from the Next World
* Néapolis
* Our Secrets Are the Same
* Neon Lights
* Cry
* Black & White 050505
* Graffiti Soul
* Big Music
* Acoustic
* Walk Between Worlds
* Direction of the Heart

Live albums|

* Live in the City of Light
* Real Live 91
* Sunday Express – Live (Volumes 1 & 2)
* 5X5 Live
* Acoustic in Concert
* Live in the City of Angels

Compilations|

* Themes for Great Cities 79/81
* Celebration
* Glittering Prize 81/92
* The Promised
* The Best of Simple Minds
* Early Gold
* Silver Box
* Celebrate: The Greatest Hits

Singles|

* "Love Song"
* "Promised You a Miracle"
* "Glittering Prize"
* "Someone Somewhere (In Summertime)"
* "Waterfront"
* "Speed Your Love to Me"
* "Up on the Catwalk"
* "Don't You (Forget About Me)"
* "Alive and Kicking"
* "Sanctify Yourself"
* "All the Things She Said"
* "Ghostdancing"
* "Belfast Child"
* "This Is Your Land"
* "Kick It In"
* "Let There Be Love"
* "See the Lights"
* "Stand by Love"
* "She's a River"

Promo singles|

* "Mandela Day" (US)

Themes series|

* Themes – Volume 1: March 79–April 82
* Themes – Volume 2: August 82–April 85
* Themes – Volume 3: September 85–June 87
* Themes – Volume 4: February 89–May 90
* Themes – Volume 5: March 91–September 92

Related articles|

* Discography
* Concert tours
* Lostboy! AKA Jim Kerr
* Ex-Simple Minds

Authority control databases |

* MusicBrainz release group

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